08-21-2009, 01:42 AM
2Lockszmith
I really appreciate your intentions but I am still against:
1. One of TC UP goals was to never get over 100MB. Adding LibertyKey would mean additional overload (50-197MB) which definitely could bring complains about the size across Internet (there are such voices already) definitely.
2. Many LK applications duplicate functionality already existing in TC UP set of tools or TC itself.
3. Licensing is always a problem and GPLed software is almost impossible to obtain in most of the cases:
- big applications require to ask either all developers or the one responsible for project who is holding all rights for it - i.e. it was impossible to even get to know whom should we ask for AbiWord. All information we've got was "Ask the layer". We can't afford to do that.
- we are not sure can we offer such software together with TC due to GPL "mystery",
- I don't know would it force Ultima to make his installer code open (he is against it).
Please, also consider the fact, that Ultima does not care about online statements and he wants to have all agreements written personally. It might be stupid for few tools but this is health way of doing things IMHO. Keeping that in mind you can find that some tools should be thrown away because they are no longer developed or their authors simply ignores "peons" (ask Microsoft for Autoruns). Seriously: I am always in doubt that all "packs" available on Internet follow licences properly.
We don't simply want any doubts. We want completely legal pack of tools which will not be taken down neither by Christian Ghisler nor anyone else.
4. We'd like to have the best tools available instead of putting in anything possible. We don't need (i.e.) couple of audio converting tools if we have nice plugin for that and we also know that AIMP can provide such functionality. We don't also want to use crippled versions of commercial software (i.e. Essential PIM).
5. Finally: we want portable software and some LK tools are out of the place. Take a look on Paint.NET. I am using it and I can always say how great it is but saying it is portable would be a lie. It requires .NET framework 3.5 SP1 (IIRC). Many people have installed it but many don't.
This is my personal opinion but I think that "letting go" is a bad habit. I know that sometimes it may be good but most of the cases I saw was not. You don't set the rules if you ever consider breaking them. Putting rules away means that you are not reliable in any matter for me. But, as I said, this is my own opinion
I really appreciate your intentions but I am still against:
1. One of TC UP goals was to never get over 100MB. Adding LibertyKey would mean additional overload (50-197MB) which definitely could bring complains about the size across Internet (there are such voices already) definitely.
2. Many LK applications duplicate functionality already existing in TC UP set of tools or TC itself.
3. Licensing is always a problem and GPLed software is almost impossible to obtain in most of the cases:
- big applications require to ask either all developers or the one responsible for project who is holding all rights for it - i.e. it was impossible to even get to know whom should we ask for AbiWord. All information we've got was "Ask the layer". We can't afford to do that.
- we are not sure can we offer such software together with TC due to GPL "mystery",
- I don't know would it force Ultima to make his installer code open (he is against it).
Please, also consider the fact, that Ultima does not care about online statements and he wants to have all agreements written personally. It might be stupid for few tools but this is health way of doing things IMHO. Keeping that in mind you can find that some tools should be thrown away because they are no longer developed or their authors simply ignores "peons" (ask Microsoft for Autoruns). Seriously: I am always in doubt that all "packs" available on Internet follow licences properly.
We don't simply want any doubts. We want completely legal pack of tools which will not be taken down neither by Christian Ghisler nor anyone else.
4. We'd like to have the best tools available instead of putting in anything possible. We don't need (i.e.) couple of audio converting tools if we have nice plugin for that and we also know that AIMP can provide such functionality. We don't also want to use crippled versions of commercial software (i.e. Essential PIM).
5. Finally: we want portable software and some LK tools are out of the place. Take a look on Paint.NET. I am using it and I can always say how great it is but saying it is portable would be a lie. It requires .NET framework 3.5 SP1 (IIRC). Many people have installed it but many don't.
This is my personal opinion but I think that "letting go" is a bad habit. I know that sometimes it may be good but most of the cases I saw was not. You don't set the rules if you ever consider breaking them. Putting rules away means that you are not reliable in any matter for me. But, as I said, this is my own opinion
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