08-22-2009, 10:10 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-22-2009, 10:25 AM by Lockszmith.)
Thanks for the reply guys.
I actually don't know exactly how everything works with LiberKey - but I do like the functionality.
As for the "total mess" dangers, you might be right, unless LiberKey does a good job of recovering the system state.
File Associasions don't need special permision in User Space - only if you want to change the whole system.
Anyway I'm not one of the maintainers of LiberKey - I did find that the following point:
1. They prefer alot of the software tools the TCUP uses.
2. They have an auto-update mechanism for each software package, even when that specific software doesn't have an auto-update solution.
3. They have an interesting System integration/File Association "trick" for temporary binding the portable application.
4. Upon USB Key eject, the system does go back to it's previous state (so they probably thought about it)
5. They like innovation - just like TCUP maintener
6. Their forum is very active, and the software is still evolving (much like TCUP).
All these points, made me think about TCUP (which I've been using for a very long time now) and how they match together perfectly.
I will keep using them together, and since TCUP and LiberKey are maintained by highly creative people, I though a dialog would do good for both parties.
Maybe I was wrong - maybe there is no openes (at least not in the way of my positive/wishful thinking)
I'm really sorry if I offended someone that much with this suggestion.
I still hope that the maintainer will take a look, and maybe - just maybe find something he likes - or even decide to work with it.
Again, thanks for the input.
Truly Yours
Gal Szkolnik (Lockszmith)
Sorry for double posting, but I did not address any of the original reply from fenixproductions.
especially the licensing issue and portability.
I actually totally agree with you regarding the packaging and personal agreement.
And since my suggestion was to open a dialog between TCUP and LiberyKey groups, what I had in mind, was a TCUP bundle with LiberKey which would not bloat TCUP.
"How can that be done?", you ask?
Well, LiberKey is actually very modular in the way it's built - so there is actually no issue whatsoever (technically I mean) in creating other bundles and "attaching" software from it's repository.
So you're still using the same software TCUP was using up-till-now (and only that software), but with the LiberKey mechanisms - especially the auto-update part, which suites TCUP (in my opinion at least).
No need to bloat the TCUP installation with MBs of irrelevant software.
And with the LiberKey mechanis adding software bundles with auto-update support from their site is as easy as pie.
Portability: Don't force anyone for using software that won't necessarily work for them, but don't limit it either.
The beauty of the LiberKey suites, is that apart of the LiberKey essentials - those parts that make LiberKey work the way it does, all other software is optional, and anyone can build their own flavor of the package.
I actually don't know exactly how everything works with LiberKey - but I do like the functionality.
As for the "total mess" dangers, you might be right, unless LiberKey does a good job of recovering the system state.
File Associasions don't need special permision in User Space - only if you want to change the whole system.
Anyway I'm not one of the maintainers of LiberKey - I did find that the following point:
1. They prefer alot of the software tools the TCUP uses.
2. They have an auto-update mechanism for each software package, even when that specific software doesn't have an auto-update solution.
3. They have an interesting System integration/File Association "trick" for temporary binding the portable application.
4. Upon USB Key eject, the system does go back to it's previous state (so they probably thought about it)
5. They like innovation - just like TCUP maintener
6. Their forum is very active, and the software is still evolving (much like TCUP).
All these points, made me think about TCUP (which I've been using for a very long time now) and how they match together perfectly.
I will keep using them together, and since TCUP and LiberKey are maintained by highly creative people, I though a dialog would do good for both parties.
Maybe I was wrong - maybe there is no openes (at least not in the way of my positive/wishful thinking)
I'm really sorry if I offended someone that much with this suggestion.
I still hope that the maintainer will take a look, and maybe - just maybe find something he likes - or even decide to work with it.
Again, thanks for the input.
Truly Yours
Gal Szkolnik (Lockszmith)
Sorry for double posting, but I did not address any of the original reply from fenixproductions.
especially the licensing issue and portability.
I actually totally agree with you regarding the packaging and personal agreement.
And since my suggestion was to open a dialog between TCUP and LiberyKey groups, what I had in mind, was a TCUP bundle with LiberKey which would not bloat TCUP.
"How can that be done?", you ask?
Well, LiberKey is actually very modular in the way it's built - so there is actually no issue whatsoever (technically I mean) in creating other bundles and "attaching" software from it's repository.
So you're still using the same software TCUP was using up-till-now (and only that software), but with the LiberKey mechanisms - especially the auto-update part, which suites TCUP (in my opinion at least).
No need to bloat the TCUP installation with MBs of irrelevant software.
And with the LiberKey mechanis adding software bundles with auto-update support from their site is as easy as pie.
Portability: Don't force anyone for using software that won't necessarily work for them, but don't limit it either.
The beauty of the LiberKey suites, is that apart of the LiberKey essentials - those parts that make LiberKey work the way it does, all other software is optional, and anyone can build their own flavor of the package.